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disciplic succession - one question



Govindaram - Mon, 20 Oct 2003 18:11:32 +0530
hare krishna

is it normal for other sampradaya to denounce others..

is this the normal practice?

i.e raganuga bhakta's to say that srila prabhupada is Not in the disiplic succession...

it seems from the comments on this forum this is the general view, if it is NOT then please correct me, i mean no disrespect to anybody here,

or are the the ppls on this forum only looking for evidence which they can never find?

anyway i got that of my chest...i feel better now..hare krishna

radhe radhe
Jagat - Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:14:59 +0530
Let us just say that Srila Prabhupada and the Gaudiya Math have a different idea of initiation.

But if you are puzzled by one sampradaya's criticism of another, you should ask how this all began. Who threw the first stone, so to speak.

All these things are meant to test the devotee, who is to learn to tolerate insults. Find the association of devotees who are free from aparadha. It will not be easy.
Govindaram - Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:07:42 +0530
hare krishna

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All these things are meant to test the devotee, who is to learn to tolerate insults. Find the association of devotees who are free from aparadha. It will not be easy.

*sigh*

yes indeed it is difficult

PAMHO ty for your comments..radhe radhe

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Madhava - Wed, 22 Oct 2003 01:22:00 +0530
QUOTE(Govindaram @ Oct 20 2003, 12:41 PM)
is it normal for other sampradaya to denounce others..

is this the normal practice?

i.e raganuga bhakta's to say that srila prabhupada is not in the disiplic succession...

it seems from the comments on this forum this is the general view, if it is NOT then please correct me, i mean no disrespect to anybody here,

Unfortunately it seems that this has become a common practice since the early 1900's.

If you have studied the recent history of our tradition, you'll know that it became a common practice in the Gaudiya Math to re-initiate members of other branches of the Gaudiya tradition without much consideration. Needless to say, this led into a clash between them and the rest of the tradition, and this friction goes on until today, people re-initiating each other and questioning the validity of each others' conceptions of parampara.

Generally people here do not go out of their way to wage a war over the parampara issue, but certainly we are not going to sit silent when someone pops in and decides to challenge the validity of our tradition without much concern for our side of the story. I keep hoping that people from ISKCON / GM would be tactful enough to not come here and start such campaigns to prove their rightfulness, though they are certainly welcome to participate in that which we have in common and review the controversies in a dispassionate manner.


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or are the the ppls on this forum only looking for evidence which they can never find?

Whatever this is supposed to mean, I do not know, but most of the regular contributers here are quite down-to-earth here, paying careful attention to facts unveiled in any research, not seeking the utopia.
Govindaram - Wed, 22 Oct 2003 03:56:46 +0530
radhe radhe

ty pamho Mahavaji,

seems to me, its just as difficult to find a guru as it is to become KC, visa-virsa, krishna really does choose carefuly..

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Jagat - Wed, 22 Oct 2003 06:43:14 +0530
I don't think that Krishna ever neglects the sincere seeker. If he makes you wait a long time, it is only so that you are more satisfied when you find what you have been looking for.

In the meantime, cultivate.