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Is Radha or Krishna the true object of affection? - I want responses to my debate.



shiva - Sat, 20 Apr 2002 03:51:34 +0530
I am new here,hi
I just finished a long debate at  gaudiya.net   at the forums
debate section,it was all about raganuga.
I am shiva there also,I would like your comments.
Raga - Sat, 20 Apr 2002 04:10:10 +0530
Greetings Shiva,

And welcome to Raganuga Discussions. I browsed through the two debates in gaudiya.net debate section. I noted many of the contributions on both sides were very lengthy.

For clear and conclusion-oriented debates, it is helpful if exchanges are kept short and if claims are backed up with reference.

In regards to the topic header -- the initial question for starting the discussion --  "Is Radha or Krishna the true object of affection?" -- you'd have to first define the meaning of "true object".

Let us take it to mean "prominent object". Firstly, it depends on the individual's rasa. Let us assume we mean those in manjari-bhava. In them, affection for Radha predominates over their affection for Krishna, and their affection for Krishna is ever dependent on their affection for Radha.

Of course, this does not by any means imply that their affection for Krishna would be "false", in contrast to "true" as you asked, only that the affection for Krishna is subordinate.

A recent topic entitled bhavollasa discussed the issue at some length. Check it out, particularly the later contributions there.
Raga - Sat, 20 Apr 2002 04:24:52 +0530
By the way, this topic belongs to "Philosophical and Theological Discussions". I have moved it to where it belongs.

Shiva, your subheader of the topic states, "I want responses to my debate."

I copied and pasted the entirety of your debates into my word processor, and they take a hefty 72 pages with Times New Roman, point size 10, in A4 size.

Would you like to just boil down the essence of your debate and present the gist of it to us, to keep things brief?