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Primary Definition - JanmAdyasya yatah

Madanmohan das - Tue, 13 Sep 2005 19:48:52 +0530
In the discussions with Sarvabhauma Bhattacarya in CC on the topic of defining the indivisable reality, it was proposed that the supreme lord is the ablative, insrumental and the locative ei, everything proceeds from him, everything lives by him and everything enters him.

We meditate on that reality from whom all this evolves,
In whom it doth abide, and into whom at last desolves.

This idea alone shows the excellence of the Vaisnava philosophy.
This is how the Brahma sutras begin and most significantly the Bhagavat takes up this in it's opening couplet and repeats the idea again and again from various perspectives.

namastrikAlasatyAya I bow to him who exists ( without modification ) in all three phases of time. jagannAthasutAya ca, unto him ( who is manifest as ) the son of Jagannatha. CBh Adi 1,2
Madanmohan das - Sun, 18 Sep 2005 06:56:58 +0530
Here are the original words.

brahma haite janme vizva brahmete jIvaya/
sei brahma punarapi haye jAya laya//
apAdAna karaNAdhikaraNa kAraka tina/
bhagavAnera savizeSa ei tina cihna//

The universe is born from Brahman, and through Brahman it lives; and into Brahman again all these are absorbed.
The three cases: ablative, instumental, and locotive, these three distinct phases are the particular characteristic features of Bhagavan.

CC Madhya 6
Madanmohan das - Sun, 18 Sep 2005 07:04:45 +0530
Can somebody, if you please, post the sloka from Mukunda Mala, kRSNo rakSatu no.....etc., I don't have it here, but it would be interesting as it deals with all the case endings in one sloka as the vizeSa of Bhagavan Sri Krsna.
Sakhicharan - Sun, 18 Sep 2005 07:42:14 +0530

kRSNo rakSatu no jagatrayaguruh kRSNaM namadhvaM sadA
kRSNenAkhilazatravo vinihatAh kRSNAya tasmai namah/
kRSNAd-eva samuthitaM jagadidaM kRSNasya dAso'smyahaM
kRSNe tiSThati vizvametadakhilaM he kRSNa rakSasva mAm//
Keshava - Sun, 18 Sep 2005 10:59:32 +0530
This sloka is an example of Vibhakti Bhakti.
Madanmohan das - Mon, 19 Sep 2005 19:01:04 +0530
I'm sure the above sloka was quoted in another thread a while ago with the explanitory translation, but I can't find it. If someone else can it would be good. smile.gif
Sakhisaranadasji, did you not also have the translation to copy and paste in?
Sakhicharan - Mon, 19 Sep 2005 21:33:00 +0530
May Krsna, the Guru of the three worlds, protect us;
our obeisance unto Krsna at all times.
Krsna is the vanquisher of all enemies -
I offer my obeisance unto that Krsna.
This world emanates from Krsna;
I am the servant of only Krsna.

Sri Sri Prapanna-jivanamrtam
Mukunda-mala Stotra 43