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Four Bhavas, But Only One for Publicity - Discussion with Sri Ananta Das Babaji Maharaja



Madhava - Fri, 05 Aug 2005 00:43:47 +0530

Four Bhavas, But Only One for Publicity
Discussion with Sri Ananta Das Babaji Maharaja on the 16th of March, 2005, Radha-kunda
[Edited version - See attachment for the original.]

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Madhava: I have one question. In Chaitanya Caritamrita, Krishnadas Kaviraja Goswamipad has written, chari bhava diya prabhu nachaimu jagate, that Mahaprabhu has given four bhavas, chara-vidha braja-bhava, and with these he has made the world dance. But nowadays in our Gaudiya Vaishnava sampradaya, there is only manjari-bhava.

Babaji Maharaja: Yes.

Madhava: So, what happened to the other bhavas? Mahaprabhu, it is said, gave char bhava.

Babaji Maharaja: Chari bhava bhakti diya nacaimu bhuvana.

Madhava: Ha, nacaimu bhuvana.

Babaji Maharaja: In this madhura-bhava, manjari-bhava, dasya, sakhya, vatsalya, and shanta, all are in inside madhura-bhava. Mahaprabhu has given only madhura-bhava manjari-bhava. Not dasya, sakhya, vatsalya. The others, shanta, dasya, sakhya, vatsalya, he did not. Shanta is not here in Vraja-dhama. Here are four: dasya, sakhya, vatsalya and madhura. But these four bhavas, four emotion, stay inside madhura-bhava. So, if anybody worships in madhura-bhava, then the four will automatically come within his heart.

Madhava: Right.

Babaji Maharaja: There is dasya, service, Radharani’s service, Krishna’s service, manjari-bhava. So dasya is there, nice, and sakhya also. That means Radharani’s sakhi. Anytime Krishna and Radharani are laughing, then also the manjari laughs, so there is sakhya also. And vatsalya also, that means, vatsalya means deep love may come at anytime, like that of a mother and a father to a son, such love also inside there. And madhura bhava itself, that is always there. But actually, madhura-bhava. [Shows “one” with finger.] Not dasya, sakhya or vatsalya, any others. But inside madhura-bhava, there are four. Four bhavas are staying inside madhura-bhava, and from the others, dasya, sakhya, vatsalya, these four bhavas stay there in madhura-bhava. That is better, more nice.

Madhava: Right. Some devotees are asking this, because Nityananda Prabhu came with Dvadasa Gopala, Gauridas Pandit and all, as Subala Sakha and so forth, the Dvadasa Gopalas, so there was also some...

Babaji Maharaja: Nityananda Prabhu is also tasting this madhura-bhava as Ananga Manjari, Nityananda Prabhu also. And Nityananda Prabhu is actually Balarama, Baladeva. So he was with his sakhas here, the sakhas also come here. So with sakhas, he tasting sakhya-bhava, but that is not for publicity among all the devotees. The only publicity Rupa-Sanatana have given is for this manjari-bhava. And for that reason, Ramananda Raya asked Mahaprabhu. Inside Ramananda’s heart Mahaprabhu gave that, Mahaprabhu’s own wish for publicity. And Ramananda Raya went over these four, from shanta-bhava to madhura-bhava, and it is when madhura-bhava came, at that time Mahaprabhu said he gave some taste.



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Madhava - Fri, 05 Aug 2005 00:43:47 +0530

Four Bhavas, But Only One for Publicity
Discussion with Sri Ananta Das Babaji Maharaja on the 16th of March, 2005, Radha-kunda
[Edited version - See attachment for the original.]

[attachmentid=1736]

Madhava: I have one question. In Chaitanya Caritamrita, Krishnadas Kaviraja Goswamipad has written, chari bhava diya prabhu nachaimu jagate, that Mahaprabhu has given four bhavas, chara-vidha braja-bhava, and with these he has made the world dance. But nowadays in our Gaudiya Vaishnava sampradaya, there is only manjari-bhava.

Babaji Maharaja: Yes.

Madhava: So, what happened to the other bhavas? Mahaprabhu, it is said, gave char bhava.

Babaji Maharaja: Chari bhava bhakti diya nacaimu bhuvana.

Madhava: Ha, nacaimu bhuvana.

Babaji Maharaja: In this madhura-bhava, manjari-bhava, dasya, sakhya, vatsalya, and shanta, all are in inside madhura-bhava. Mahaprabhu has given only madhura-bhava manjari-bhava. Not dasya, sakhya, vatsalya. The others, shanta, dasya, sakhya, vatsalya, he did not. Shanta is not here in Vraja-dhama. Here are four: dasya, sakhya, vatsalya and madhura. But these four bhavas, four emotion, stay inside madhura-bhava. So, if anybody worships in madhura-bhava, then the four will automatically come within his heart.

Madhava: Right.

Babaji Maharaja: There is dasya, service, Radharani’s service, Krishna’s service, manjari-bhava. So dasya is there, nice, and sakhya also. That means Radharani’s sakhi. Anytime Krishna and Radharani are laughing, then also the manjari laughs, so there is sakhya also. And vatsalya also, that means, vatsalya means deep love may come at anytime, like that of a mother and a father to a son, such love also inside there. And madhura bhava itself, that is always there. But actually, madhura-bhava. [Shows “one” with finger.] Not dasya, sakhya or vatsalya, any others. But inside madhura-bhava, there are four. Four bhavas are staying inside madhura-bhava, and from the others, dasya, sakhya, vatsalya, these four bhavas stay there in madhura-bhava. That is better, more nice.

Madhava: Right. Some devotees are asking this, because Nityananda Prabhu came with Dvadasa Gopala, Gauridas Pandit and all, as Subala Sakha and so forth, the Dvadasa Gopalas, so there was also some...

Babaji Maharaja: Nityananda Prabhu is also tasting this madhura-bhava as Ananga Manjari, Nityananda Prabhu also. And Nityananda Prabhu is actually Balarama, Baladeva. So he was with his sakhas here, the sakhas also come here. So with sakhas, he tasting sakhya-bhava, but that is not for publicity among all the devotees. The only publicity Rupa-Sanatana have given is for this manjari-bhava. And for that reason, Ramananda Raya asked Mahaprabhu. Inside Ramananda’s heart Mahaprabhu gave that, Mahaprabhu’s own wish for publicity. And Ramananda Raya went over these four, from shanta-bhava to madhura-bhava, and it is when madhura-bhava came, at that time Mahaprabhu said he gave some taste.



Watch the Video - Original transcript: [attachmentid=1737]
Attachment: Image
Attachment: four_bhavas_2005_03_16.doc