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Ancient nuclear blasts and levitating stones of Shivapur -
Madhava - Mon, 01 Aug 2005 23:15:01 +0530
Ancient nuclear blasts and levitating stones of Shivapur- Alexander Pechersky -
http://english.pravda.ru/science/19/94/377/13920_stones.htmlThe great ancient Indian epic, the Mahabharata, contains numerous legends about the powerful force of a mysterious weaponThe archaeological expedition, which carried out excavations near the Indian settlement of Mohenjo-Daro in the beginning of the 1900s, uncovered the ruins of a big ancient town. The town belonged to one of the most developed civilizations in the world. The ancient civilization existed for two or three thousand years. However, scientists were a lot more interested in the death of the town, rather than in its prosperity.
Researchers tried to explain the reason of the town's destruction with various theories. However, scientists did not find any indications of a monstrous flood, skeletons were not numerous, there were no fragments of weapons, or anything else that could testify either to a natural disaster or a war. Archaeologists were perplexed: according to their analysis the catastrophe in the town had occurred very unexpectedly and it did hot last long.
Scientists Davneport and Vincenti put forward an amazing theory. They stated the ancient town had been ruined with a nuclear blast. They found big stratums of clay and green glass. Apparently, archaeologists supposed, high temperature melted clay and sand and they hardened immediately afterwards. Similar stratums of green glass can also found in Nevada deserts after every nuclear explosion.
A hundred years have passed since the excavations in Mohenjo-Daro. The modern analysis showed, the fragments of the ancient town had been melted with extremely high temperature - not less than 1,500 degrees centigrade. Researchers also found the strictly outlined epicenter, where all houses were leveled. Destructions lessened towards the outskirts. Dozens of skeletons were found in the area of Mohenjo-Daro - their radioactivity exceeded the norm almost 50 times.
The great ancient Indian epic, the Mahabharata, contains numerous legends about the powerful force of a mysterious weapon. One of the chapters tells of a shell, which sparkled like fire, but had no smoke. "When the shell hit the ground, the darkness covered the sky, twisters and storms leveled the towns. A horrible blast burnt thousands of animals and people to ashes. Peasants, townspeople and warriors dived in the river to wash away the poisonous dust."
Astounding mysteries of India's ancient times can be found in the town of Shivapur. There are two enigmatic stones resting opposite the local shrine. One of them weighs 55 kilograms, the other one is 41 kilograms. If eleven men touch the bigger stone, and nine men touch the smaller stone, if they all chant the magic phrase, which is carved on one of the walls of the shrine, the two stones will raise two meters up in the air and will hang there for two seconds, as if there is no gravitation at all. A lot of European and Asian scientists and researchers have studied the phenomenon of levitating stones of Shivapur.
Modern people divide the day into 24 hours, the hour - into 60 minutes, the minute - into 60 seconds. Ancient Hindus divided the day in 60 periods, lasting 24 minutes each, and so on and so forth. The shortest time period of ancient Hindus made up one-three-hundred-millionth of a second.
braja - Mon, 01 Aug 2005 23:50:30 +0530
Yes, the nuclear weapons were apparently tested in Astra-lia, leaving most of it as a desert. Or so we are told.
Stone the crows!--this one at least has photos and the investigator's name correct.
nabadip - Tue, 02 Aug 2005 01:02:14 +0530
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Scientists Davneport and Vincenti
They are not exactly scientists, but a Sanskrit student and a journalist
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Forse è proprio quello l'atteggiamento giusto: condurre le ricerche avendo sott'occhi i testi antichi, e sforzarsi di prenderli sul serio anche quando ciò che narrano appare inverosimile. È quel che hanno fatto nel 1978 uno studioso di sanscrito, David Davenport, cittadino britannico nato in India, e il giornalista italiano Ettore Vincenti, dopo la lettura del Ramayana.
Poema epico e contemporaneamente testo sacro indù, centomila strofe (è il più prolisso libro di poesia esistente), il Ramayana è, come nel resto l' altro poema nazionale, il Mahabharata, un confuso racconto di guerre e di battaglie avvenute in un'antichità indefinita e leggendaria lungo la valle dell'Indo.
They studied the Ramayana and the Mahabharata and took the descriptions of vimana and different astras literally, and went to search corresponding evidence.
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David Davenport ed Ettore Vincenti hanno fatto qualcosa di più costruttivo. Nel Ramayana (Uttara Kanda, cap. 81) si parla di un rishi (un «sapiente») che, adirato contro gli abitanti di una città chiamata Lanka, dà un preavviso di sette giorni; al termine dei quali promette «una calamità, che cadrà come fuoco dal cielo». Ebbene: testo sacro alla mano, i due si sono recati in India per identificare questa Sodoma orientale.
Davenport e Vincenti ritengono, per motivi linguistico-geografici che sarebbe troppo lungo spiegare, di aver identificato l'antica Lanka («isola») nella città di Mohenjo-Daro, centro della «civiltà di Harappa», fiorita (e improvvisamente estinta) attorno al 2000 avanti Cristo. Mohenjo-Daro, nome moderno (significa «luogo della morte») era chiamata qualche secolo fa «Isola» (Lanka), perché era circondata da un braccio secondario del fiume Indo, oggi prosciugato. Gli scavi archeologici, condotti sopratutto dai britannici, una trentina d'anni fa, hanno messo in luce una realtà misteriosa e sconvolgente.
They took the above passage in the Ramayana where a Rishi says that in seven days Lanka would be destroyed by a fire from the sky, and applied it to Mohenjo-Dara identifying Lanka as island, because the former was like an island in a tributary of the Indus... they found some materials there and presented them at some Institute in Rome and got their theory confirmed that the high temperatures required to melt them that way would not be explained by a normal fire.
http://www.scienzeemisteri.it/pagina_principale_33.htm
DharmaChakra - Tue, 02 Aug 2005 01:40:21 +0530
QUOTE(braja @ Aug 1 2005, 02:20 PM)
Yes, the nuclear weapons were apparently tested in Astra-lia, leaving most of it as a desert. Or so we are told.
Stone the crows!--this one at least has photos and the investigator's name correct.
I found this quote interesting
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Lamasery monks in Tibet have been known to levitate a massive rock at the entrance of a cave, in response to a particular volume, pitch and vibration of drums and horns. Does sonic resonance force the Shivapur rock to rise? If so, a series of similar words uttered at the same pitch and volume as "Qamar Ali Darvesh" should bring about an identical result. It doesn't.
Sure, when you assume stones are lifted by sound, 11 fingers on a rock is easy! Also, there is mention on a videotape, but none available? Two pictures?
However, I will be filing this away... still a cute story.
Nabadip: Thanks for the clarifications
jijaji - Tue, 02 Aug 2005 02:55:02 +0530
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They are not exactly scientists, but a Sanskrit student and a journalist
Ha Ha, where are the real scientists when you need them
DharmaChakra - Tue, 02 Aug 2005 06:19:10 +0530
For some reason, Braja's link on the floating stone stuck with me today. Consider:
1. The author was specifically banned from participating in the ritual. I have to wonder if I went to Shivapur, suddenly, 'everyone but blue eyed people' could participate.
2. If just 3 people are 'in on it', the weight per finger jumps to 25lbs from 18lbs, lifting it becomes a lot harder. She rather misses this analysis despite running around it (the party trick).
3. She takes for granted that Tibetan Lamas lift stones with sounds.
4. We get two photos, & no video, despite her video taping it.
I was very disappointed with her analysis of the problem. Note that she also falls into the trap of believing the 'religious men' couldn't deceive her. No.. that never happens! There are lots of reasons, cultural, social and religious for having a floating stone... she seemed to overlook these as well.
Really, God isn't in the cheap parlor tricks...
Madhava - Tue, 02 Aug 2005 06:30:49 +0530
What about the
floating stone in Rameshwaram? Has anyone ever checked it out?
Madhava - Tue, 02 Aug 2005 06:37:24 +0530
QUOTE(DharmaChakra @ Aug 2 2005, 01:49 AM)
2. If just 3 people are 'in on it', the weight per finger jumps to 25lbs from 18lbs, lifting it becomes a lot harder. She rather misses this analysis despite running around it (the party trick).
If the stone weighs 70 kg, it becomes a bit over 6kg per person. Have 20 men take up the task, and they can throw it in the air even without the Darvesh.
jijaji - Tue, 02 Aug 2005 07:05:59 +0530
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Really, God isn't in the cheap parlor tricks...
Seems God would come up with a better way to give humanity a sign hey..