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ISKCON's Women Ministry - (petition)
Sadhupriya - Sat, 29 Jan 2005 18:35:07 +0530
From: Divyambara Dasi
Subject: petition
Dear Devotees,
Please accept my humble obeisances. Jaya Srila Prabhupada!
The Women's Ministry is circulating a petition against a proposal to
suspend the GBC resolutions allowing and encouraging the Vaisnavis to
participate in the devotional practices in ISKCON (giving classes,
leading kirtans, accepting managerial & leadership positions, Deity
worship, etc.)
Kindly go to www.dharmacoalition.com to review the petition with its
supporting information, and to sign it, if you will. We would
appreciate your help with circulating it to others.
Katya or Sati: if you can, please translate and post this message for
the Russian speaking devotees.
Thank you!
Your servant,
Divyambara dasi
babu - Sat, 29 Jan 2005 19:00:11 +0530
Is Iskcon also thinking of removing Radha from the altar?
Dhyana - Sat, 29 Jan 2005 19:10:26 +0530
QUOTE
Is Iskcon also thinking of removing Radha from the altar?
No, but She should be under the protection of Her proper Vedic husband, not of the institution (devotee community).
Chanahari - Sat, 29 Jan 2005 19:18:10 +0530
QUOTE(babu @ Jan 29 2005, 02:30 PM)
Is Iskcon also thinking of removing Radha from the altar?
Most probably there are GBCs out there planning that - I got just enough warning not to ever take Radha's name on my mouth, when I was there.
Tapati - Sat, 29 Jan 2005 19:59:48 +0530
And those gopis have got to stop fooling around with Krsna and be proper, chaste girls or they'll just never make any spiritual advancement!
angrezi - Sun, 30 Jan 2005 03:07:43 +0530
Women worshiping Krishna?
How outrageous!
Everybody knows He is the property of male saffron-robed ex-hippies!
Madhava - Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:24:53 +0530
God this is backwards.
Kulapavana - Tue, 01 Feb 2005 00:09:02 +0530
In his proposal, Basu Ghosh Prabhu implies that there is NO RESPONSIBILITY ON BEHALF OF ISKCON for the treatment of women who surrendered their lives to Iskcon temples and Iskcon gurus, because SP stated that a woman is always dependent, initially on her father, then husband, then her grown son. Actually, the main religious principle here (one of women's dependency) applies to Iskcon as well. Were these women not living under Iskcon's roof? Were they not serving Iskcon? Of course they were... Using such guru-quoting word jugglery by Basu Ghosh to cover up Iskcon's rightful responsibility is obviously CHEATING, and would not hold up in any court of law.
If people like Basu Ghosh were really concerned about following Srila Prabhupada's orders in social sense, they would have implemented his last order to establish varnashrama dharma system in our Society. A brahmani woman has more right to give class in the temple than a sudra man.
Madhava - Tue, 01 Feb 2005 00:26:44 +0530
All women should leave ISKCON. That would solve their problems.
But then they would have twice as much trouble dealing with those gay marriages taking place gandharva-style, as they obviously can't be done officially in the temple room, not yet anyway.
Dhyana - Tue, 01 Feb 2005 00:30:25 +0530
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But then they would have twice as much trouble dealing with those gay marriages taking place gandharva-style, as they obviously can't be done officially in the temple room, not yet anyway.
Madhava, this is priceless! (btw, don't gandharvas look a bit like the stereotype of gay men?)
angrezi - Tue, 01 Feb 2005 01:10:25 +0530
QUOTE(Dhyana @ Jan 31 2005, 02:00 PM)
btw, don't gandharvas look a bit like the stereotype of gay men?)
Frankly, I think so. And furthermore I think Nalakuvera and Manigriva were possibly framed by early celestial feminists. Krishna understood this, and doesn't want it for Iskcon.
babu - Tue, 01 Feb 2005 07:59:17 +0530
QUOTE(Dhyana @ Jan 29 2005, 01:40 PM)
QUOTE
Is Iskcon also thinking of removing Radha from the altar?
No, but She should be under the protection of Her proper Vedic husband, not of the institution (devotee community).
That'll get Krishna angry if She is going to be under the protection of Her proper Vedic Husband.
Indranila - Wed, 02 Feb 2005 03:39:22 +0530
Sorry, hit the wrong button.