Gouranga as Shiva - Gaudiya-saiva worshippers?

Jaya Rasaraja!
Soma-rasanatha!

Are there anyone worshiping Gouranga as Shiva Mahadev?
I recall seeing quotes and histories at this subject. Anyone knowns?

No, I do not think there are. I cannot recall hearing of any such traditions.

I do know that the story is told that Advaita Acharya is held to be an incarnation of Shiva and Mahavishnu combined.

Advaita das-ji tells the story of the advent of Advaita Acharya in his book 'The Glories of Advaita Acarya'. I don't have it in front of me (its actually in my car.. I was just reading it today...), so I can't tell you the scriptures he uses for sources.

I believe he's not asking whether Shiva Mahadeva worships Gauranga in some form, but rather he is asking if there is someone out there who worships Gauranga while thinking of him as Shiva Mahadeva.

No.. I got it.. I was just bringing up the reference... of course one of the source books is 'Advaita Prakasa' which puts forth the idea that Advaita holds a 'higher' position than Mahaprabhu, as Advaita caused the incarnation of Sri Chaitanya.

N.B. I'm working from Advaitaji's book only (and even that not in front of me) so forgive me for oversimplifying...

There is no suggestion given anywhere in Advaita Prakash that Advaita is superior to Mahaprabhu. However, the person who brings Mahaprabhu is about as valuable or indispensible as Mahaprabhu himself, huh? Please read in this regard my refutation of Swami Giri's attack on Advaita Prakash on my website http://www,madangopal.com, called 'In defense of the Advaita Vamsha' under 'Opinions' - gaura ana thakur prabhu sitanath ki jay!

I believe this gets back to Madhava-ji's 'higher' vs 'superior' argument in a different thread..

Anyways, I know some have made the argument that the book holds Advaita Acharya ontologically higher than Mahaprabhu, tho I am in no way endorsing this argument. In fact, I believe this is usually brought out to discredit the book.

Advaita-ji, thanks for the link.. I will read today! And BTW, I'm really enjoying the book!

I trust you are not deducting this solely out of someone's antithesis? If we were to build a picture of the theses of the Gaudiya tradition out there based solely on the antitheses presented by some revolutionaries, the folks out there probably wouldn't even figure they are the ones being discussed, and would only wonder where people with such strange views dwell and predominate.

Gah.. this thread is spinning wildly out of control!

No, no.. Ok, I guess I'm just going to have to bring in Advaita's book & quote from it.. the work you guys make me do... What I really meant to say is that I believe some grasp onto this implication in the book to discredit it.. see here:

http://www.bhajankutir.net/BGNAdvaita_Prakasa.pdf
(Actually, this appears to be a link to the same text on Advaita's site, but with worse formatting...)

And getting back to the main topic of the thread, I was just bringing up one reference to one aspect of Shiva in Mahaprabhu's pasttimes...

Tho do we need a 'Which is higher, Advaita or Gouranga' thread? They seem to be quite in style as of late...

Yes, I'm familiar with that. I suppose what I'm asking is whether you know of anyone who presents such an idea and actually stands behind it, instead of objecting to it. One would assume that if a book proposed something along those lines, that there was a tradition of people thinking along those lines, too.

I don't know of any tradition, but then again, what I don't know could fill an ocean.. and not one of those small oceans.. Pacific size...

Perhaps Advaita-ji can shed a little more light on this?

DharmaChakra,
dandavats.



I guess that would be better since my question was about Gouranga being Shiva.
I saw this in a lila of Chaitanya-Bhagavata with Gouranga going crazy at Shiva´s Temple and the saiva devotees thinking of him as Shiva dancing and chanting his holy names. I could´t find this reference. Anyone know´s of it?

Ishvarananda Das