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Message To Disciples - Sri Haridas Sastriji Maharaja



braja - Fri, 27 Aug 2004 08:23:38 +0530
Message To Disciples

This English booklet was put out for followers of Sri Haridas Sastriji Maharaja. It elucidates "their responsibilities and obligations toward [their guru] and...the codes of conduct for a disciple." The book begins with a brief outline of guru-tattva followed by a short biography of Haridas Sastriji Maharaja. It then explains practical topics such as morning worship, acamana, tilaka, offering food and so on. After an essay on education, the book finishes up with a Question and Answer section.

As a succinct outline for new disciples, this book sets a great example. It intelligently mixes philosophy and practical matters, without becoming too detailed. Although the book is clearly intended for disciples, the general principles covered are often straight from standard Vaisnava sadacara, Hari Bhakti Vilasa, etc., so the book will likely be of interest to many others.

A few excerpts:

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Question: When we are in the West should we always mark ourselves with tilaka?

Answer: After bathing in the morning and before performing puja, one should apply tilaka. One can put on the twelve marks of tilaka for puja and chanting. If it is a problem to wear tilaka in public, one can remove the forehead tilaka before going outside in the West. Using water alone, one can then form the tilaka symbol on the forehead. The other eleven marks are hidden, so nobody can see them anyway. The Lord is not pleased if you worship him without tilaka. Tilaka is the mark that indicates that one is a servant. (p. 42)


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Question: What is the minimum one should chant?

Answer: On receiving initiation, one should chant one's diksa-mantras ten times and the maha-mantra one hundred and eight times. This is the minimum requirement so that the mantra remains functional. This is the minimum for any mantra. But it is not that we should aspire just to chant the minimum. There are no rules for how much one should chant, but for one who is initiated at least one round should be natural. (p 43)
Rasaraja dasa - Sat, 28 Aug 2004 06:28:00 +0530
Dandavats. All glories to the Vaisnavas.

This sounds like a very interesting book and probably a very important one for disciples of Srila Haridas Satsri. I was telling Madhava a while back that I would love to see something similar for Baba as it would be great for disciples but also good for all of those looking for a somewhat in-depth, yet manageable, look into what is required by a disciple of Baba. Even outside of that paradignm it would give an interesting look at what is involved in the various practices encouraged by Baba.

Maybe Madhava can look to do something similar for Baba?

Aspiring to serve the Vaisnavas,
Rasaraja dasa
braja - Sat, 28 Aug 2004 07:59:58 +0530
I picked up some new video material from Yugal that we will be carrying in the store soon. (Proceeds going to Yugal's archival efforts, machine upgrades, etc., but more on that another day). He has taken a similar approach with the Question and Answer format, asking topical questions. Some of that could be transcribed and included.

Of course, he is working with a standard digital camera, i.e. a still camera, and his memory stick is limited to six minutes of video so sometimes the answers get cut off in mid sente
Rasaraja dasa - Sat, 28 Aug 2004 08:02:02 +0530
QUOTE (braja @ Aug 27 2004, 06:29 PM)
I picked up some new video material from Yugal that we will be carrying in the store soon. (Proceeds going to Yugal's archival efforts, machine upgrades, etc., but more on that another day). He has taken a similar approach with the Question and Answer format, asking topical questions. Some of that could be transcribed and included.

Of course, he is working with a standard digital camera, i.e. a still camera, and his memory stick is limited to six minutes of video so sometimes the answers get cut off in mid sente

Dandavats. All glories to the Vaisnavas.

I think it would be great to translate some of Yugal's material. Also maybe you can get a "wish" list from him for his needs to further record and distribute such material. I would be happy to assist in any way I can.

Aspiring to serve the Vaisnavas,
Rasaraja dasa
Tamal Baran das - Sat, 28 Aug 2004 10:29:02 +0530
On which kind of media are you gonna put those materials? Cd roms or DVD's?

Prema Bhakti Chandrika you are mentioning, that you have brought with you, is that the one with commentaries by Sri Ananta Das Babaji Maharaja?If it is which edition is that?

Thanks in advance,
Tamal Baran das - Sat, 28 Aug 2004 11:04:54 +0530
QUOTE (Rasaraja dasa @ Aug 28 2004, 12:58 AM)
Dandavats. All glories to the Vaisnavas.

This sounds like a very interesting book and probably a very important one for disciples of Srila Haridas Satsri. I was telling Madhava a while back that I would love to see something similar for Baba as it would be great for disciples but also good for all of those looking for a somewhat in-depth, yet manageable, look into what is required by a disciple of Baba. Even outside of that paradignm it would give an interesting look at what is involved in the various practices encouraged by Baba.

Maybe Madhava can look to do something similar for Baba?

Aspiring to serve the Vaisnavas,
Rasaraja dasa

Dear Madhava,

This would be great, if you and Yugal could get together to do that. Like intro booklet for aspiring disciples and the ones which have harinam only.
Same thing could be possibly done for all the info which comes after harinama initiation, a possibly second booklet with all the info for diksitas, including your info and explanation for various practices you have learned from Baba. You know what i mean anyway.

And possibly the third booklet could be dealing with the info after diksa with Yugals cd rom attached.
This stuff will rock...
Madhava - Sat, 28 Aug 2004 18:01:06 +0530
QUOTE (Tamal Baran das @ Aug 28 2004, 06:59 AM)
Prema Bhakti Chandrika you are mentioning, that you have brought with you, is that the one with commentaries by Sri Ananta Das Babaji Maharaja? If it is which edition is that?

I wasn't aware there'd be different editions. We are working on printing a hard copy, but thus far the photocopied version is the only edition, the only "edition" difference being that you can have it in A4-size or shrunk to A5-size for those with microscopes or Superman-sight.
Madhava - Sat, 28 Aug 2004 18:08:47 +0530
QUOTE (Tamal Baran das @ Aug 28 2004, 07:34 AM)
This would be great, if you and Yugal could get together to do that. Like intro booklet for aspiring disciples and the ones which have harinam only.

Yes, I am certain something like this could be accomplished. Last time I was out of time for anything of the sort, but this time I should have plenty of time at my disposal. So why don't you all send in suggestions.


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Same thing could be possibly done for all the info which comes after harinama initiation, a possibly second booklet with all the info for diksitas, including your info and explanation for various practices you have learned from Baba. You know what i mean anyway.

Yes, ths is also in the air, and something I'll be working on when I get to Vraja. Again, if you have suggestions on what needs to be asked and clarified, send them in.

The reason I'm saying asked and clarified is that sometimes people ask complex questions in complex English, and Baba doesn't follow the question really and answers to something slightly different, and people take that as his definitive answer and quote it. So things need to also be studied and clarified further with him.


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And possibly the third booklet could be dealing with the info after diksa with Yugals cd rom attached.

Siddha-pranali related questions you can PM me and I'll note them down and ask once I get to Vraja. I personally find that in person such things are much easier to clarify than by letter, unless you know Bengali of course.
braja - Sat, 28 Aug 2004 19:00:33 +0530
QUOTE (Tamal Baran das @ Aug 28 2004, 12:59 AM)
On which kind of media are you gonna put those materials? Cd roms or DVD's?

Prema Bhakti Chandrika you are mentioning, that you have brought with you, is that the one with commentaries by Sri Ananta Das Babaji Maharaja?If it is which edition is that?

Thanks in advance,

They are divx format. I also have Yugal's pictures and photos on CD that we'll also distribute.

The books are no longer being printed in the spiral bound photocopy format. They are all going to be clothbound (hardbound). Yugal found a place that does it for a great price. He gets them photocopied at one place, bound at another. He then puts a color cover on and laminates them. I won't have time today but I'll scan the cover and take a photo of the new format. It is so much better.

The only books I have in this format were the first ones done like that but when the shipment arrives, those are the editions we will carry. I have a handful of misc old style photocopies also.
Rasaraja dasa - Sat, 28 Aug 2004 20:50:39 +0530
QUOTE (Madhava @ Aug 28 2004, 04:38 AM)
Yes, I am certain something like this could be accomplished. Last time I was out of time for anything of the sort, but this time I should have plenty of time at my disposal. So why don't you all send in suggestions.

Dandavats. All glories to the Vaisnavas.

I would say that you should review the contents of HDS' book and use that as a sort of content guideline. It sounds like it is well thought out and well rounded. I may order a copy out of curiosity just to see all that is covered and to what extent.

Aspiring to serve the Vaisnavas,
Rasaraja dasa
braja - Sat, 11 Sep 2004 02:26:25 +0530
QUOTE (braja @ Aug 28 2004, 09:30 AM)
The books are no longer being printed in the spiral bound photocopy format. They are all going to be clothbound (hardbound). Yugal found a place that does it for a great price. He gets them photocopied at one place, bound at another. He then puts a color cover on and laminates them. I won't have time today but I'll scan the cover and take a photo of the new format. It is so much better.

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I mentioned earlier that I'd post a scan of the new format for the non-printed books of Ananta Das Baba. They not only look good but are much more practical as the binding is very well done.

Unfortunately I don't know when they'll be in stock as my shipper has gone silent on me. I may need to airlift them over here if it takes much longer.
DharmaChakra - Sat, 11 Sep 2004 04:41:56 +0530
QUOTE (braja @ Sep 10 2004, 08:56 PM)
QUOTE (braja @ Aug 28 2004, 09:30 AM)
The books are no longer being printed in the spiral bound photocopy format. They are all going to be clothbound (hardbound). Yugal found a place that does it for a great price. He gets them photocopied at one place, bound at another. He then puts a color cover on and laminates them. I won't have time today but I'll scan the cover and take a photo of the new format. It is so much better.

user posted image

I mentioned earlier that I'd post a scan of the new format for the non-printed books of Ananta Das Baba. They not only look good but are much more practical as the binding is very well done.

Unfortunately I don't know when they'll be in stock as my shipper has gone silent on me. I may need to airlift them over here if it takes much longer.

braja:

Any idea on the cost of the hardbound copies? I just got my spiral bound copy of Sri Sri Prema Bhakti Chandrika in the mail today, and Madhavaji isn't joking when he talks about needing a microscope..

The book wasn't expensive, so I don't mind just buying the hardbound copy... or I'd be happy to donate it to another board member who wants to cover shipping costs... or just trade books.. PM me if interested.

Madhava - Sat, 11 Sep 2004 04:59:21 +0530
Braja, that'd be A4-size, right? Could you give us a sampler of the way it looks inside? Wondering if it's the same old look that has been around for ages. Considering that they probably don't have the source files, I suppose it's the same thing in a new package.

At one point, people were asking if the books could be available in smaller size, so Yugal just shrank the size in the copyshop by 100%. Hence, the original font size, probably 12 or so, became 6, and thus the need for the microscope.

The cover and binding look pretty good. Kudos for Yugal for the job.

braja - Sat, 11 Sep 2004 05:16:15 +0530
Yugal was selling them for only 50 rupees more, which is ridiculously cheap considering the labor he has to put into them--taking them to Delhi and then photocopying, binding, and laminating them at different places. I suggested that he raise the price...so blame me if they suddenly become more expensive. tongue.gif Prema Bhakti Candrika, for instance, was listed at Rs 350. My copy however is priceless, as it was the first that was presented to Babaji Maharaja. innocent.gif

The books are all back to A4 now. Yugal went into Delhi with me and was using an advance I gave him for printing more copies of everything so whoever visits should be able to find the new versions. I took the remainder of all the spiral-bound books back with me so from here in this is probably--hopefully--the only format we'll see till the books make it into print.

Internally the texts are the same as the earlier versions--nothing was added, not even front matter.