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Iskcon Biting Us In The Ass Like A Doberman - from Kshamabuddhi
Jagat - Thu, 06 May 2004 17:42:55 +0530
--posted on saraswata.net by Kshamabuddhi.--A valid point.
No matter how hard Madhava and the boys at the Raganuga camp try to get away from ISKCON and talking about ISKCON, it just seems to keep coming back to bite them in the ass like a Doberman chasing the mailman.
The topic of Satsvarupa Maharaja and his apparent "falldown" is THE HOTTEST TOPIC at the Gaudiya Discussion forum.
Though they would like to think and present themselves as "from another universe" of the Gaudiya "tradition", the boys of the Raganuga camp consistently demonstrate over and over, with topics like this one, that they are in fact very much, inextricably a part of the "ISKCON" universe, though they would certainly like to pretend otherwise.
I don't think we deny this. But isn't it also true the other way round? Isn't ISKCON part of the greater Gaudiya Vaishnava universe?
But I think that we are making some progress, admittedly slow, in establishing a distinct and independent point of view. Having been part of Iskcon, part of our self-definition is done by a process of contrast. Some people disappointed in Iskcon have abandoned Vaishnavism altogether, and I know for sure that many on this forum are sorely tempted to do so and hover here on the cusp.
Those of us who hesitate are the ones who are just making sure there are no babies in the bathwater.
Advaitadas - Thu, 06 May 2004 17:47:50 +0530
I think that Ksamabuddhi's charges are exaggerated.
1. This thread is only in a single isolated, lower slot of the forum, specially created for this type of retro-topic.
2. The participants that contribute most of the posts on these threads are either still in Iskcon or freshly out of it.
3. As Jagat points out, the pot blames the kettle for being black. He cannot let go of us. Sparky is himself regularly surfing here, so we are biting him in the ass, too. Why does he bother about us at all, if it wasn't that he is coming here for higher knowledge?
Advaitadas - Thu, 06 May 2004 17:49:32 +0530
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Some people disappointed in Iskcon have abandoned Vaishnavism altogether, and I know for sure that many on this forum are sorely tempted to do so and hover here on the cusp.
They never met a genuine Vaishnava saint. They should go to Vraja or Bengal and get a (new) life.
arekaydee - Thu, 06 May 2004 18:01:05 +0530
*yawn*
Anand - Thu, 06 May 2004 18:01:38 +0530
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They should go to Vraja or Bengal and get a (new) life.
If Ksamabudhi ever makes to Bengal he will go for a wife, not a life.
Advaitadas - Thu, 06 May 2004 18:05:07 +0530
No need, he has his enlightening forum site for that already.
jatayu - Thu, 06 May 2004 21:17:37 +0530
QUOTE(Anand @ May 6 2004, 12:31 PM)
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They should go to Vraja or Bengal and get a (new) life.
If Ksamabudhi ever makes to Bengal he will go for a wife, not a life.
Good point! But, he says he gave up chanting japa ( "no use of shooting blank bullets") and has a strong appetite to have sex. Question: Why doesnt he rename his forum into shivalingam.net? When asked how many rounds he chants before he starts writing posts about the most effective contraceptive methods on saraswata.net he banned me from the forum.
http://www.saraswata.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=548
Anand - Thu, 06 May 2004 23:06:33 +0530
So the banning business is still going on uh? Call Amnesty International immediately I say.
Someone needs to stop this torturing of innocent web readers.
Gaurasundara - Fri, 07 May 2004 09:02:04 +0530
Why give him the pleasure?
If we starve him of the attention that he cries for so much, he will eventually realize that his "observations" have no real meaning or relevance and that he will eventually pack up and go away.
All well.
Anand - Fri, 07 May 2004 09:21:41 +0530
But then there is always the danger that he will brake his vow and start posting here again.
