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Nis-Karma - No Fruitive Results

Govindaram - Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:09:14 +0530
Hare Krishna Pamho to all.

I have a question..

If somebody tries to work without any gain for fruitive results, then does that person ever get tired?*

*I mean to say in spiritual activites, not working 16 hour shifts. unsure.gif
braja - Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:46:33 +0530
Here's my pre-breakfast opinion:

Certainly. And he shouldn't just be trying to work without fruitive gain, which is a lopsided position. The balance would be Krishna, the center of all the levels of yoga, from niskama-karma yoga all the way up. Although beyond the yoga ladder, I think the best example is Raghunatha Dasa Goswami's renunciation at Puri: there was always a higer level in which the Lord was pleased more. Unless the "tiredness" is actually symptomatic of not connecting in yoga, it is due to wanting/needing a higher level of connection. But all this is pretty abstract and perhaps there is more to your question?
Govindaram - Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:50:48 +0530
Hare Krishna

But all this is pretty abstract and perhaps there is more to your question?

I was just thinking about what i heard in a lecture, something along the lines:

If you do Karmic work you can get tired..
But if you just do your dharma then you can never be tired.

So smile.gif I was thinking some Bhakta's do so much work, chant/preaching/etc, is merely determination in the mode of goodness, am i missing something?