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Is he Saddam? -



Hari Saran - Sun, 06 Feb 2005 01:10:28 +0530
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I have been thinking this over and over again, but I could never be satisfied with the idea that Saddam Hussein was really put in prison as announced by the media.

Iím no way here defending Saddam, but those pictures (for me) do not really match!
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Any thought or let it be?
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TarunGovindadas - Sun, 06 Feb 2005 01:43:17 +0530
follow John Lennon!

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brajamani - Sun, 06 Feb 2005 02:02:43 +0530
I think its him. Look at the eyes, the hairline and the nose.

I do, however, think that the VERY little news we get about it all points to something wierd, what tha is I dont know though.
Gaurasundara - Sun, 06 Feb 2005 08:30:27 +0530
It wouldn't surprise me at all if the US was lying to save face. A similar things to have occurred regarding Abu Musab al-Zarqawi. About three weeks ago the Arab media reported his capture by US forces, and a Swiss newspaper carried that story even though they shifted responsibility onto the Arab media for reporting first.
Since then, I notice that nothing has been reported as directly occurring from the physical actions of al-Zarqawi, but from his followers. The supposed audio tape from al-Zarqawi that surfaced recently is only believed to be his voice, which is what the US also says about tapes of Osama. I think that the US are lying.
Babhru - Sun, 06 Feb 2005 09:28:09 +0530
If you look at the eyes, the shapes of the nostrils, and other things, I think you may find evidence that it's Saddam Hussein. Just because some features (length of hair, facial hair, lines on the face, etc.) look different in the two pictures doesn't necessarily mean much. The pictures were probably taken several years apart, and under very different circumstances. The first is an official portrait, and the second is probably something between a mug shot and propaganda.

I was an intelligence analyst in the US Navy during the Vietnam war, and I don't take anything the US government says for granted. However, I don't automatically accept every conspiracy theory that comes along. I gues that's one difference between Art Bell (and his wannabe, George Noory) and me.
Hari Saran - Mon, 07 Feb 2005 14:01:51 +0530
Or should one ask, are them really prisioners?

"The American al-Qa'eda operative unmasked last week as having planned to bring down the Brooklyn Bridge was first detained in March, and has been used by the FBI for months as a double agent, it was reported yesterday."
http://www.prisonplanet.com/archive_war_on_terror.html

Babhru-ji, with great respect, but it is definitely hard for me to believe that all the most powerful Nations together canít find one single man named Osama Bin Laden.

About Saddamís pictures, please look carefully at their eyebrow, and if there is any picture with (suppose) Saddam without beard, letís look at it again.
Gaurasundara - Mon, 07 Feb 2005 22:32:50 +0530
QUOTE(Hari Saran @ Feb 7 2005, 09:31 AM)
Babhru-ji,† with great respect, but it is definitely hard for me to believe that all the most powerful Nations together canít find one single man named Osama Bin Laden.

This is what is so hilarious. The tragedy of 9/11 happened for which OBL gets blamed even though he didn't do it. They tear into Afghanistan anyway and don't manage to find him. Then they make up some story about Saddam and Iraq and go to war there. They haven't even finished it and they're already whispering about picking a fight with Iran. Where will it all end? What is this War Against Terror (WAT) really all about anyway? And in the middle of it all, OBL is still free. rolleyes.gif
Kulapavana - Mon, 07 Feb 2005 22:55:28 +0530
how do you know the TOP picture is real Saddam?

anyway, it does not really matter. he is irrelevant in the present game...

as to finding Osama: I'm not sure they really want him out of the picture - he has been a cash cow to the defense industry and a most convenient excuse for Ali Bush and his gang of 40(+) thieves to funnel billions and billions of dollars to his buddies in the industrial-military complex, not to mention other types of criminal behavior done in the name of "fighting terrorism".

with the fall of communism in Russia and the end of Cold War things started to look pretty dismal for the owners of US industrial-military complex - Saddam and Osama (both one time CIA pets) were their "saviors"! wink.gif
Advitiya - Mon, 07 Feb 2005 23:15:46 +0530
Dear Harisharanji! When I looked at that picture you posted on top right beside that nice hibiscus flower I felt a SCREAM too EXTREME! ohmy.gif
Hari Saran - Tue, 08 Feb 2005 13:31:21 +0530
QUOTE(Advitiya @ Feb 7 2005, 05:45 PM)
Dear Harisharanji! When I looked at that picture you posted on top right beside that nice hibiscus flower I felt a SCREAM too EXTREME! ohmy.gif



"No Woman, no cry
Everythingís gonna be all right!"
B.Marley
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Hari Saran - Thu, 10 Feb 2005 14:29:11 +0530
QUOTE(Gaurasundara @ Feb 7 2005, 05:02 PM)
QUOTE(Hari Saran @ Feb 7 2005, 09:31 AM)
Babhru-ji,† with great respect, but it is definitely hard for me to believe that all the most powerful Nations together canít find one single man named Osama Bin Laden.

This is what is so hilarious. The tragedy of 9/11 happened for which OBL gets blamed even though he didn't do it. They tear into Afghanistan anyway and don't manage to find him. Then they make up some story about Saddam and Iraq and go to war there. They haven't even finished it and they're already whispering about picking a fight with Iran. Where will it all end? What is this War Against Terror (WAT) really all about anyway? And in the middle of it all, OBL is still free. rolleyes.gif



QUOTE(Kulapavana)
anyway, it does not really matter. he is irrelevant in the present game...

as to finding Osama: I'm not sure they really want him out of the picture - he has been a cash cow to the defense industry and a most convenient excuse for Ali Bush and his gang of 40(+) thieves to funnel billions and billions of dollars to his buddies in the industrial-military complex, not to mention other types of criminal behavior done in the name of "fighting terrorism".

with the fall of communism in Russia and the end of Cold War things started to look pretty dismal for the owners of US industrial-military complex - Saddam and Osama (both one time CIA pets) were their "saviors"!†

Thanks you all! smile.gif and sorry for the latter reply.

Iím sure many people share the same conceptions about these political maneuvers that you have critically pointed out.

However, the underground world of that invisible reign is not merely detected by its powerful arms, which is expressed by USA and England; they are the external aspects of the Empire. I really doubt if these nations actually have independent control of the game, rather they simply are elected cooperators of the imperceptible (untouchable) Grand Order that has been globally emerging since millenniums.

OBL and Saddam, yes! puppets controlled by the invisible hands.
Hari Saran - Fri, 11 Feb 2005 10:23:01 +0530
QUOTE(Hari Saran @ Feb 10 2005, 08:59 AM)
OBL and Saddam, yes! puppets controlled by the invisible hands.



That was latte at night, before bed.

Actually, Tony Blair, Bush, OBL and Saddam are the ďNew Orderís PuppetsĒ and the rest (civilians) are the helpless audience.

That was the real message, besides chant Hare Krishna Mantra and try to be happy, of course! wink.gif
Madhava - Tue, 15 Feb 2005 21:09:28 +0530
This may be a bit too off topic even for the off-topic forum.
Hari Saran - Thu, 17 Feb 2005 08:47:48 +0530
Oh really. Do I get any special prize for that or those are already the kindly words from the Holy Dham?


Anyhow; Aloha!
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BDW, do you have any other view to share about the Global political situation?
Madhava - Thu, 17 Feb 2005 17:55:25 +0530
I have no way of repaying you even in a day of Brahma; you will have to be satisfied with your own good deeds as the rightful reward.
jatayu - Thu, 17 Feb 2005 21:46:25 +0530
QUOTE(Hari Saran @ Feb 17 2005, 03:17 AM)
Oh really. Do I get any special prize for that or those are already the kindly words from the Holy Dham?


Anyhow; Aloha!
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BDW, do you have any other view to share about the Global political situation?




His followers say he is not Saddam, when they officially caught that man it was a different season to be seen on the filmfootage than it really was. This was reported in all Arab newsstations. His followers clearly say no, it's not him.
If you thought US military action in Iraq was a waste of lives and money, think again. Modern way of controlling a nation is perfectly achieved by forcing it into debt and instead of paying back the debt with money simply take away all the state properties and put it under the control of the World Bank/Washington/New York. wink.gif

Iraq Deposits Five Billion Dollars with US Federal Reserve

The Iraqi central bank has built up five billion dollars in reserves in recent months which have been deposited with the US Federal Reserve, a top US treasury official said Tuesday.

The sum will earn the Iraqi government about 100 million dollars of much needed interest each year, John Taylor, US treasury under secretary for international affairs, told a press conference after talks with Iraqi officials.

The money has been placed with the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.

Taylor said the five billion dollars had built up from the currency transactions since the introduction of the new Iraqi dinar.

He said he had discussed the importance of improving Iraq's banking system by developing electronic payments -- Iraqis still rely heavily on cash -- and to help the private sector to borrow money.

Iraqi authorities also had to set up financing for housing mortgages, he added.

While acknowledging Iraq's security troubles, Taylor said there was much to be "optimistic" about in the country's economy with more signs of activity since the country's January 30 election.

"There is a lot of economic activity that you can see just by driving around the streets," said the official, who told reporters he had not been confined to the high-security Green Zone while in Baghdad.

"The necessary economic and political foundations are taking root to ensure Iraq's prosperity," he said.
www.hispanicbusiness.com/news/newsbyid.asp?id=20833
Hari Saran - Fri, 18 Feb 2005 00:38:34 +0530
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His followers say he is not Saddam, when they officially caught that man it was a different season to be seen on the filmfootage than it really was. This was reported in all Arab newsstations. His followers clearly say no, it's not him.
If you thought US military action in Iraq was a waste of lives and money, think again. Modern way of controlling a nation is perfectly achieved by forcing it into debt and instead of paying back the debt with money simply take away all the state properties and put it under the control of the World Bank/Washington/New York. wink.gif


Thanks Jatayu! It seems to be so clear that it hard to believe that most of the population is not able to see it. TV and News Papers in the West Hemisphere are purposely damping misguiding information to cover up the underground operations of the World Trade and Co. To be honest, the very first time I heard the "News" about Saddhamís capture I never trust. The other thing is about Bushís election, many really thought that he would not win; what a dreamers! And that is simple, he has to continue to carry the Orders, he had not finished the job, yet.