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The Nityananda-nagari tradition - Have you heard of it?
Madhava - Wed, 08 Sep 2004 20:12:33 +0530
Has anyone heard of the Nityananda-nagari tradition?
One would imagine that if such a thing as Gauranga-nagari exists, then certainly there must be a Nityananda-nagari tradition somewhere, too, as it is hard to fathom that during his travels, the frolicsome Nitai would not have captured a heart or two on the way as well.
Any news on this?
Satyabhama - Wed, 08 Sep 2004 21:00:37 +0530
What I wrote before made somebody really sad, so I erased it. It was just a joke! I didn't mean it!
Malatilata - Wed, 08 Sep 2004 21:28:52 +0530
Balaram has also his own gopis, why wouldn't Nitai have his own nagaris?
Nitai must have looked very charming with his beautiful, shining body decorated with silken cloth and ornaments and with his big lotus-like eyes full of love for Gaura.
Satyabhama - Wed, 08 Sep 2004 21:38:49 +0530
this post also was offensive apparantly. I'm sorry. I'm a creep.
jijaji - Wed, 08 Sep 2004 21:57:12 +0530
I know Sri Nitai had 12 close associates known as Gopalas who were in cowherd boy bhav...seems those lines must have some traces left somewhere in Bengal..
jiva - Wed, 08 Sep 2004 22:24:49 +0530
In Caitanya Bhagavata , Vrndavana dasa Thakur answers in the following way :
tato'dhika caitanyera priya nahi ara
niravadhi seo dehe karena vihara
bara gurha nityananda ei avatare
caitanya janaya jare se janite pare
apanake jena prabhu na karena vyakta
ei mata lukayena nityananda tattva
nityananda svarupe se caitanyera bhakti
sarva bhave karite dharaye prabhu sakti
jakhana je rupe gaura sundara vihare
sei anurupa rupa nityananda dhare
There is no one more dear to Sri Caitanya , for He always enjoys Srila Nityananda's body! Nityananda's avatara is very confidential ; only those whom Sri Caitanya personally informs may know abou Him . Sriman Mahaprabhu hides Nityananda's tattva in order to conceal His own confidential pastimes . Nityananda's bhakti is such : He has the sakti to worship Caitanya within every type of mellow . Thus , Nityananda takes on whichever mood Gaurasundara adopts and a form to match.
Srinivasa Acarya's disciple , Sri Prasada dasa said:
nitai rangiya mora nita rangya
puraba vilasa rangi sangera sangiya
Nitai is playful ; my Nitai is playful indeed ! And He is up to His previous vilasa with His previous female companions .
Jahnava Ma's disciple ,Sri Jnana dasa , makes the following comment about Nitai's beauty , muni dhyana bhule sati-dharma tale - '' The munis forget their meditations and the young women's chastity totters .''
Srikhanda-vasi , Raghunandana Thakura's son , Sri Kanu dasa , also writes about Nitai , saying :
preme matowara nitai nagara
atulita prema dayara sagara
Sri Nitai nagara is mad with prema and because such prema is incomparable , He is ocean of mercy .
In a pada devoted to Sri Nityananda , Sri Narahari Cakravarti says ,
parisara buka dekhi keba nahi bhule
sati kulavati tilanjali deya kule
Seeing Nita's broad chest , who wouldn't be captivated ? Thus the chaste young girls easily forsake their family ties .
Then he goes to say ,
kiba bhave manda manda hase
narahari kahe kulavati sati dhairaja dharma nase
Just see Nita's gentle smile , Narahari says, the chaste young girls' patience and family dharma are collapsing!
Srila Locana dasa describes Sri Nitai's nagara feature like this ,
dekhare nayana bhari nitai sundara
gauranga pranaye rasamaya purandara
abhora pranaya rase ange gada gada
calite sthira dhare adha adha pada
dharani premara bhare tala mala haya
jaha pada pare dhara pankaja hiyaya
piriti agara mukha bhuru-yuga jora
anuraga maya akhi arunera kora
tahate visphara netra saghane ghurnita
sri ganda vikasa dekhi jagata mohita
kutila kuntale cura jena naga-raja
sudhi vanera phula manamatha saja
bama sruti-mule eka kokanada dole
pranata janera jena kola dite bole
locana bole olo sai kari nivedana
calo jaiya dhari sabe nitai carana
O sakhi ! Just behold Nitai sundara ! He is the king of Gaurasundara's rasamaya prema . His limbs are overflowing with piriti rasa and his voice falters . Thus His feet stumble s the earth shakes with his abundant prema ! Oh ! Let's just try to catch those feet within our minds ! His face is spellbound with love and His two brows align with His flirtatious eyes which are the sun's abode . Moreover , these latge , beautiful eyes are rolling as His cheeks captivate the entire world. His beautiful , curling hair is tied in a cura . Oh , it looks like a king cobra's hood ! He's adorned with forest flowers appearing like Cupid ; and from His left ear dangles a conchshell earring . But is it telling His beloved ones , '' Just embrace me ! '' Locana says , '' Hey sakhi ! Just hera my appeal . Let's all go out and catch Nita's two lotus feet . ''
Gadadhara Prana Prabhu deals in some extant with Sri Nitai's hidden side in his book Sri Sri Rasaraja Gauranga , so I recommend this book , again.
Hari Saran - Sat, 11 Sep 2004 03:27:50 +0530
Thanks Jiva-ji for the thundershower!
Jay Nitai! Jay Goura!
Madhava - Sat, 11 Sep 2004 03:33:43 +0530
Jiva ji, thank you for the interesting references. I have my reservations, though, on how far they may be taken to indicate factual vilAsa, as as I have pointed out in earlier threads, poems narrating how they bewilder young ladies with their beauty etc. have been written even of life-long celibates, such as Narottama Das Thakur.
At any rate, I wonder if you know whether there is a tradition committed to following this line of thought.
jiva - Sat, 11 Sep 2004 22:22:21 +0530
Unfortunatelly - I don't know. I will ask my Prabhu about that and let you know...
jiva - Thu, 16 Sep 2004 22:51:17 +0530
Here is some info from Gadadhara Prana prabhu :
Any paribara can be into Nityananda nagara, if they want to. Do they have to be separate? Rama das Babaji and Carana das Babaji were greatly into Nitai nagar rasera agara. So was Gaurguna ananda Thakura of Srikhanda.
sadhaka108 - Fri, 17 Sep 2004 04:54:26 +0530
Please, can you tell us a little about this devotees?
Sakhicharan - Mon, 20 Sep 2004 06:41:18 +0530
Here is another verse from "Rasaraj Sri Sri Gauranga". This is in the chapter entitled "Sri Nitai Cand's Hidden Side". This is of course by Gadadhar Prana dasji.
This verse is attributed to Srila Vrindavan das.
jakhana je rupe gaurasundara vihare
sei anurupa rupa nityaananda dhare
"Thus Nityananda takes on whichever mood Gaurasundar adopts and a form to match."
I am not really certain how to interpret this verse, however this verse is stealing some attention from my mind.
It brings up many questions of Nitai tattva that seem to have been previously "unhatched" if you will.
I would love to hear how this community of Vaisnavas understands this verse.
Maybe the topic of Nityananda tattva would better be discussed in a separate thread?
I think the topic should include reference to His feature as Balaram as well because these are in truth parallel existences.
jiva - Mon, 20 Sep 2004 23:04:40 +0530
I think that there is an explanation in '' Sri Sri Rasaraja Gauranga'' . If you can't find it I will post it here later...
Kavi Karnapura says :'' Nityananda's acceptance of the role of the Yogamaya is not amazing because ' the God khown as Sesa becomes the abode , bed , seat ,shoes , clothh , pillow , umbrella , etc of the Lord . In order to serve the Lord , he accepts all other forms and is therefore called Sesa , the remainder .''
(C.c.n. , 3.45 )
Nityananda is thus , as Jagat said in his article '' The Role of Sakti in Gaura Lila'' , the form of service (seva-vigraha) . Although God in every respect , he is God as servant to Himself.
Jagat noticed in his article ,also, that Nityananda and his followers were probably more partial to Gaura kirtana than to Radha-Krsna kirtana .This , and many more things , led the followers of Nityananda to a greater appreciation of the Srikhanda devotees (Gaura-nagaris).
I hope that Jagat will explain this in detail in his articles in Editorials-section.